You could imagine someone taking the Arminian view, and saying that the only way for someone to respond in a saving way is through the Gospel. You could imagine someone taking the Calvinist position and saying that God chose people in all cultures and religions. I believe at least the first alternative has been taken by some. But I think traditional Calvinists have always rejected inclusivism. I'm not, of course, a traditional Calvinist. Jul 14, Apr 27, 5.
Apr 27, Apr 27, 6. Last edited: Apr 27, Apr 27, 7. Apr 27, 8. Apr 27, 9. As Dr. Piper notes "God's emotional life must be infinitely complex. Apr 28, May 27, Jun 11, This will be an attempt to have some organized rambling, or to present some disorganized clarity.
I think I am going to tell you what I think, but I am not sure. So far, I have been jokingly serious. I will present some worthwhile nonsense. The reason for all these words is because I do wrestle with this topic.
Now to actually begin I am aware of Ezekiel I am not sure that I can side with those who want to present this statement and suggest that God agonizes over the punishment of a sinner, I am not sure how the words of the verse say that.
Some present God has having love to the exclusion of all other attributes. I do not want to go so far as that distortion. Verse 23 says To know that God has a plan and a people emboldens us to proclaim the gospel to every person we meet Acts 18 : What God initiated in eternity he will consummate in his own good time Eph. Until one claims to know everything personally, there is room to tolerate paradox in others.
The hallmark of a Christian is not logic, but love. It ignites holy boldness even as it smites our pride. That God is sovereign means that none can come to Jesus — despite our clever phrases, latest methods, and polished salesmanship — unless the Father draws him or her. At the same time, it assures us that every person the Father has given to Jesus will come — without exception, and despite our own faulty choices and often bumbling work.
If prophets are mute, donkeys can speak. If disciples remain silent, the stones can cry out. Calvinists and Arminians already agree that every person finally saved will enjoy salvation only because of what God did in Jesus. These truths apply equally to those who lived before Jesus and to those who lived after, to Jew as well as to Gentile, to those who hear the gospel and to those who do not.
None will be saved except on the basis of the atonement Jesus has made. On the other hand, all who ultimately perish in hell will do so despite the fact that Jesus died for sinners and despite the fact that he receives everyone who truly wishes to come.
God scrutinized what Jesus had done and was satisfied as foreshadowed in Isa. Then, to confirm the mission accomplished, God raised Jesus from the dead Rom All this occurred in the historical experience of Jesus, our substitute and Savior. Salvation is not a theoretical possibility but a fait accompli. It happened once for all, outside us but for us, in the personal life and death of Jesus of Nazareth almost two thousand years ago.
Whatever the case in the age to come, no one can enjoy salvation now apart from hearing and believing the gospel. Just as President Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation and, by the stroke of his executive pen, freed every slave in the Confederate States effective January 1 , , so Jesus, by his perfect act, effectively saved every human being who finally will enjoy eternal life.
Until women and men learn the good news of their salvation, they continue to live as if nothing has happened. They remain as they were — without hope, not knowing God, unaware of his forgiveness and favor. The gospel ministry is for the sake of such individuals, that they may obtain salvation in every sense, subjectively as well as objectively 2 Tim.
Not all who are finally lost will have rejected the gospel, at least not in this life. But even those will have consciously rejected knowledge of God in some form, whether in nature Acts ; Rom , conscience Rom , or divine revelation John On the other hand, Scripture indicates that all those finally saved will have welcomed in a spirit of faith the light of God they had.
Abraham is the prime example of one who was justified by faith though neither Christian nor Jew, and with limited gospel understanding as well Rom Salvation Debate The Salvation debate has been one of the most controversial debates in the Christian church known to date.
So as we can see Evangelicals stand unanimously together on salvation but it is when we get more in depth with…. Calvinism is the theological system of John Calvin who exerted international influence on the development of the doctrine of the Protestant Reformation Warfield, Calvin and his followers marked by strong emphasis on the sovereignty of God, the depravity of mankind, and the doctrine of predestination.
This system was developed as a biblical Christianity. Calvinist theology spread rapidly, and became…. I similarly find myself acknowledging that Calvinism has its pros; for instance, they provide a strong emphasis on the sovereignty of God. However, as you have known, people who appeared to be saved but later left the faith by rejecting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, I have likewise seen people leave the faith.
In addition to personal experiences, I find myself leaning on Arminianism because of the constant encouragement from New Testament authors to continue…. Every careful Arminian affirms that God deserves all glory for the salvation of the redeemed.
Stressing each of the two points in the couplet can help us minimize needless misunderstanding, define genuine differences with sharper clarity, and cultivate a fraternal climate in which to study jointly the Word of God.
God takes no pleasure in the final destruction of any. God finds pleasure in the salvation of every person who is saved. God finds no joy in the death of any sinner. He is not vengeful or vindictive. The Creator dues not delight in the destruction of any person he has made, not even his enemies. Whoever is finally lost will not see God smiling as a result. Indeed, the Son of God says, there is celebration in heaven over every sinner who repents Luke , No one can come to Jesus unless the Father draws him or her.
Every person whom the Father has given to Jesus will come. These statements did not originate with Calvin, Augustine, or even the apostle Paul, but with Jesus himself John , The assurance that God is in control should stimulate courage rather than contention; it should inspire hope and not harangues. To know that God has a plan and a people emboldens us to proclaim the gospel to every person we meet Acts 18 : What God initiated in eternity he will consummate in his own good time Eph.
Until one claims to know everything personally, there is room to tolerate paradox in others. The hallmark of a Christian is not logic, but love. It ignites holy boldness even as it smites our pride. That God is sovereign means that none can come to Jesus — despite our clever phrases, latest methods, and polished salesmanship — unless the Father draws him or her. At the same time, it assures us that every person the Father has given to Jesus will come — without exception, and despite our own faulty choices and often bumbling work.
If prophets are mute, donkeys can speak. If disciples remain silent, the stones can cry out. The ultimate basis of salvation is the work of Jesus.
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